This is actually one of the worst sites I’ve had up here (relatively speaking of course) as it was more than a bit exposed. like they had a great time as well! Backpacked this loop counterclockwise and camped at Lilypad Lake July 13-14, 2019. We hiked further on and ended the day at Bear Lake. But this was my first big hiking trip, we had a couple groups fly past us with their happy dogs leading the way. Nikki saw an RV ahead through the trees, and we were back! Beautiful, but definitely not for the faint of heart. We stopped and rested there at the ridge This time, due to reported conditions beyond Burst Rock I hiked from Crabtree. Groundhog meadows to bear lake We started off at the Gianelli Cabin trailhead (elevation 8580’) behind the Pinecrest Ranger Station late Friday afternoon. We cut short our plans for a bigger loop because of blisters and everyone said Gem lake was a bug fest. a half a mile if you come at it from Y Meadow Lake. on the left side, following a sort of almost-trail to the end of the lake than in July! Water was NOT ice cold and made for a super pleasant swim after that hot sunny climb! On the second day we would hike down to Y Meadow Lake loop around to Chewing Gum Lake and then take an unmaintained trail back to the Crabtree trailhead. Crabtree to groundhog meadow: Nice light ups and down, but mostly just cruising along. Bear cans are not required. Its above the water fall. On our third day we finished the loop back to Crabtree trail head. Took us an extra 30min just to stop the bleeding. The Emigrant Wilderness of Stanislaus National Forest is a wilderness area in the Sierra Nevada.It is bordered by Yosemite National Park on the south, the Toiyabe National Forest and the Hoover Wilderness on the east, and State Route 108 over Sonora Pass on the north. Trail goes from super sandy in spots, to you having to traverse over rocks, big and small. There was a fire burning It was soooo amazing! Even on Labor Day the trail wasn't too populated. Bear Lake is pretty buggy and very packed right now. Recommended hike! This day we will cover about 3.2 miles and 500 feet of gain. mule deer on the road while driving back. well marked in all the places. in the wilderness. Groundhog meadow to bear lake: There are a few stream crossings and only one of them got me wet. Bugs weren’t terrible but the crowds were a little tricky. around for a while, the trail wasn't too hard to find. It was nice. This first day starts on trail. Bear Lake in the Emigrant Wilderness: Trip Logistics. A backpacking trek through the Emigrant Wilderness to Bear Lake is an ideal weekend adventure for city dwellers hoping to hit the trail on a Friday evening in the summer. Day 4 Granite Lake to the Swift Creek Trailhead June 20, 2018. Great spot for sunrise & sunset. got cooler, and we layered up. This peaceful little lake makes a great early season hike as well as an easy trek for those wishing to get away for the weekend without spending all day on the trail. We had lunch at Camp Lake. It had lots of rolly rocks and felt very long. was pretty exciting. Highly recommend! share Share . The sound of the creek below was great to sleep next too. - roughly 4 miles, half shade and half exposed The trail itself is pretty easy to follow. Though it wasn't the Facebook; Twitter; Email; directions Driving Directions. The trail is primarily used for hiking, camping, nature trips, and backpacking and is best used from April until October. She's one of those athletic types, so we let her carry the stove and water filter to slow her down. - easiest leg, mostly shade we all looked down and realized that if we had fallen, we might really have talked about lots of fun stuff like backcountry skiing and mountaineering and It was quite nice! streams flowing through them. I hope that Bernd will forgive us. It's only a 3.5 hour drive from San Francisco, and borders Yosemite. We found a great camp site with a stone fire ring, enough room for two tents and a view of watching the sunset behind the lake. Literally _just_ as Stephany and I drank the last of our water, The out-and-back is about 12 miles with not a great deal of climbing. Posted on August 18, 2014 Bear Lake sits just inside the Emigrant Wilderness nestled in a granite valley accompanied by a sea of conifers. From the south, the wilderness is accessible from Cherry Lake, along the border with Yosemite National Park. Lots of super rad places to camp, would be perfect for packing in and staying overnight. it wasn't too hard to spot them, and aside from one bit where we had to wander We made it to Camp Lake, lots of camper and people however great sites to camp. left at chewing gum lake and head back over a lesser trail to the trailhead, We thought we would have the There's a little bit of a climb that's in the sun, but most of the trail is level with small hills. We would It is 13 difficult miles from Crabtree campground, a large part of it uphill. After half a toilet paper roll used, we continued on our journey. Then we moved on. straight up the hill to our right. This peaceful, alpine lake makes for a perfect one day getaway during the summer months and to escape the heat of the foothills. Still feeling good, This was our first backpacking trip and have to say we are exhausted however this was worth it. Pretty trail along the way Yay Backpacking!!! the trailhead. We opted to do the loop from Crabtree TH to Grouse Lake to Piute Crossover down to Bear and Camp Lakes. It was a nice trailhead, though. the end, we ran into these nice slanting glacial granite slabs that we There was no trail, and any other footprints from There are no trails into the Lake, and only a very experienced backpacker can nagivate the ducks, granite faces, and ridgelines to make it there. We can loop back to Summit Creek by threading our route through Mosquito and Brown Bear Passes. anybody else. I would 300% recommend climbing to the top of the ridge on the south side of Lilypad Lake. 2-aug-2016 - Backpacking to Granite Lake in Emigrant Wilderness for the Fourth of July 2015. I hope you like mosquitoes and because because they ate everywhere. trail and a bunch of cairns that sort of petered out on top of a cliffy Multiple creeks to cross, but none precarious - the deepest was about knee high, so a pair of water shoes were pretty clutch. other people were definitely washed away. Bear lake, oriented the map, and correlated that with our altitude, and figured We cross on a couple down logs just to the left of the trail when you go to cross. So I shot a bearing to the nearest peak that we could see across Day 3 we hung out till noonish and then headed down off the mountain. I've been there once before, hiking from the Gianelli trailhead. A large amount of folks were there, fishing and camping and throwing a ball All in all, great weekend backpacking experience for beginners and seasoned hikers alike! Plenty of water, bugs no so bad, snow at the top, not too muddy or wet. The mosquitoes have just started to hatch, and were present in only a few places. Emigrant Wilderness Granite . Over the 4th of July weekend, my friend Blair invited me out on a girls’ only trip out to Granite Lake in Emigrant Wilderness. On our way we passed a couple groups on horses. and beer. We skirted the lake I had treated my clothes and was wearing bug spray and they were still crazy. I never made time to fish these lakes in those early years and as the last decade drew on, storied of fewer fish surfaced. Where: Emigrant Wilderness, ... We passed a few groups of people headed to Bear Lake but otherwise the trail is empty and quiet. Quite a few other groups out there, but we bushwhacked away from the trail and had total peace for our campsite. Fun, eh? trip, we decided to go in to Granite Lake, which is sort of off-trail, though We made it to the top, and there it was! A few nice swimming holes. At Grouse Lake we found a spacious camp site with a large stone fire ring on the North of the Lake and trail. Le sentier offre plusieurs activités et sa meilleure utilisation est de avril à octobre. Back at the trailhead we were glad to be out however then the uphill ¾ of a mile out to our car sucked but that was the worst of the trip if at all. 1. where we should go, and some last minute doubts that I had oriented the map It would have been a fairly stiff scramble even without My wife had a 25 lbs and I had 35 lbs and we both survived. We theorized that this was the "peak" backpacking time for the sierras, because Emigrant Meadow lays on the South side of Brown Bear Pass. Ridge Lake can be reached either by continuing west after the first saddle in the route to Lewis Lake. off-trail navigation, and it was a little slow, but not much up/down, so it The "stairway to heaven" between Grouse Lake and Piute Creek is quite impressive. 3 day 2 night Trip Enjoy. full, after weeks of us going there and not seeing hardly anybody. beneath our feet! Instead of crossing over the Piute Creek at the trial we decided to head up the Piute 50 yards and crossed over a log the spanned the creek. - roughly 6 miles, steep climb near the end (rock trail) Bear Lake rests on Lily Creek just inside the Emigrant Wilderness. the way we came up, or we could walk out through Y Meadow Lake and then turn Mars was bright as could be. We stayed overlooking the lake however don’t miss the opportunity to hit the top of the ridge above the lake. There were some cool This was the shortest day, but the incline in elevation was intense for a little while. But I kept my fleece and socks on, and was plenty warm all night. Note the bit above bear lake where we went off the trail and we had to The Gianelli Trailead- when I first started fly fishing the Emigrant Wilderness, I would hear stores of the big brook trout one could find off the Gianelli Cabin Trailhead. Emigrant Wilderness offers spectacular campsites, like this one in the vicinity of Bear Lake. Tuolumne County is a backpacker's paradise. Bear lake was great, camping at grouse lake required some scrambling to get to the granite bluffs away from the bugs, but worth it. Steph down a set of increasingly sketchy trails. From the creek it’s a climb up and over the top. This lake holds stunning views and sits just under the sheer walls of Granite Dome. Bear Lake and Grouse Lake via Emigrant Wilderness Loop est un sentier en boucle de 13.8 miles très fréquenté situé près de Pinecrest, Californie. Crabtree trailhead to groundhog meadows correctly (It's been some years since I did any real orienteering), we set off Natures raw beauty and sweet serenity. So the "lower" half of the loop. A varied terrain for sure. parties already there! High 80, low 47. We hiked with our two dogs from Crabtree past Grouse Lake to Piute Creek, where we turned around and came back. woke me up sometime before dawn and we looked at the stars that came out after packs, and with them, it was quite a climb. Will be back here for sure. Camping at Grouse lake was a lot buggier but had plenty of sites with camp fire rings and a lot of dry wood lying around. fires in a lot of ways. Quite a bit of it was some good two-handed scrambling, and I ended Our second day was a beast! Even slathered in deet didn't repel them. This trail goes by Camp Lake, No Camping, and Crabtree Camp. - less than 4 miles that it was being let burn to try to let the forest re-balance itself after Road is completely clear of snow all the way to the trailhead, and high majority of the trail. This was my first backpacking excursion, and i had a great time doing it! Minimal bugs, many lovely wildflowers and a nice range of wildlife (if you are quiet enough). We opted out of Bear as we just didn’t have the time. years of fire suppression. We decided Lily Creek was about knee-deep and easily wadable, and Piute Creek looked similar but we didn't cross it. We will be back as we now have some many things we want to do and see in this area. No wonder Ansel Adams loved these mountains. trip and more of a scrambling trip. end, and ran into a group that was camping in some trees which had a big dog She's one of those athletic types, do that. mile. feet and enjoyed the sunny big lake. The Crabtree parking lot was The My wife was speechless at times and even had her breath taken away. This glaciated landscape is perfect for the young, old or beginning backpacker seeking serenity for a few days. :-). 1 review | | MODERATE #1 hike out of 38 in Emigrant Wilderness | MODERATE. The last weekend of September all of the creeks were dry, the lakes were a little low but still beautiful. A wilderness ranger had been to Granite a few days ago and found it iced-over. :-) This trip, we decided to go in to Granite Lake, which is sort of off-trail, though not by huge amounts. The recent rains Looks It was less of a backpacking green from all the rain that had come last weekend. Our six-day on- and off-trail journey to remote lakes of the Emigrant Wilderness traverses a glacially sculpted landscape with broad granite expanses, rushing mountain streams and deep canyons. I had forgotten to upload Herring Creek was almost Gluttons for punishment, we went back to the Emigrant Wilderness again, this What did we want to do, hike to Granite Lake via Bear Lake and then come back past Chewing Gum Lakes the next day. Day 1 we left the Crabtree TH late morning and took out time up to the trial split. The night was absolutely clear and cool, As the sun went down, it the basemap into my GPS unit, so it was only helpful in positioning us The climb from the lake up and over the pass is great with a snowfield the last 300 yards over the top. Bear Lake and Grouse Lake via Emigrant Wilderness Loop est un sentier en boucle de 22.2 kilomètres très fréquenté situé près de Pinecrest, Californie. Then, we got to the turnoff for Bear lake, and followed it there. Les chiens sont les bienvenus sur ce sentier mais seulement en laisse. So be careful with the trails there. Luckily, the lake was shaped with many little coves Loved it. Bear Lake and Grouse Lake via Emigrant Wilderness Loop. :-) This As a whole the trail was very well maintained, perfect for a first timer. We stopped to camp for the night at Granite Lake, a very popular and crowded lake. Bear lake back to crabtree trailhead. and climbed up a very extreme slope, angling back and to the right. people coming out of the wilderness, actually, and not too many going in. The trail has been pretty clear so far, with only a few muddy spots and a couple of passable downed trees. One of the most difficult places to find in Emigrant Wilderness is Hyatt Lake. Mosquitoes were pretty bad & swarmy at dawn and dusk but absent during the day. The climb and elevation can get to you however once at the top the views are amazing 180 degrees of views. That was kinda cool. into the water for their dog. Circular approach to Brown Bear Pass . fall back on map/compass to verify where we were. we cruised on and took the left-hand turn into the Chewing Gum Lakes area, The Piute Crossover was hard to pick up at times as still snow and not marked well. After the long northern no name lake, larger patches of snow exist, but trail is easy to refind. United States › California › Emigrant Wilderness › Bear Lake. Le sentier longe un lac et sa difficulté est évaluée comme modérée. Though near I haven’t adventured much off of Sonora Pass, so I immediately said yes! There was a sort of washed out - there are 4 stream crossings total, the highest one coming up to ~2-3 feet. relative to our old trail, and for altitude readings (though later on, I The next day, we were presented with a choice: we could go back down run into some cairns every once in a while, but it was pretty much a fires, and to help the ecosystem, which is apparently rather dependent on hill where we ate lunch and discussed books and stuff. Day 2 packed up camp and set of for Bear Lake. ), no mosquitos (or at least a lot less lake to ourselves after that amount of struggle, but no, there were 2-3 other It was a _lot_ of work. area above Bear Lake. View of Lunch Meadow and Summit Creek from the top. not much rain or anything usually, etc. The trail was really easy. time with Nikki, Steph's friend, in tow. Then up the switchback to Camp Lake. Specifically- Powell Lake and Granite Lake were supposed to produce large fish. Great stop for lunch or a location to get to and set up a base camp for day hikes. walking stick, and she kept it out and it helped her out a lot. Crabtree TH to Bear Lake. Bear Lake and Grouse Lake via Emigrant Wilderness Loop is a 13.8 mile heavily trafficked loop trail located near Pinecrest, California that features a lake and is rated as moderate. It is an elongated area that extends northeast about 25 miles (40 km) in length and up to 15 miles (24 km) in width. We set up camp and Steph took a swim (it was cold EVEN FOR HER!). At the end of the crossover we picked the trail up and crossed back over the Piute. We soaked our And guess what! (see pics in my profile) Good elevation gain for a nice workout. And also saw some shy deer. The trail was fairly moderate elevation rise. Unfortunately, it did not seem to have any fish. Tons of variety. Camping at Bear Lake, however, is limited to a single night. The views from the top of the passes are beyond describing. First ever backpacking trip!! And lo and behold, as we approached the ridge, the trail appeared We skirted around the barking dog group and made our way We stayed on west side of Piute creek at the loop connector trail, the creek was flowing fast. to be adventuresome and take the loop hike back. Hit up Bear Lake on the way out and it was magnificently beautiful but painfully ice cold. We hit the trail at the end of the lake and cruised on up the Trail length much longer than posted, I completed 15 miles and didn't even do the offshoot because I started late and was running out of daylight. ), and so on. And a ranger did check for our permits so make sure you pick those up on the way in! realized I could have read the UTM coordinates on it and found where we were We definitely were in the wrong place. It After lunch we decided we would try for Studhorse Meadows for the night. We found our way over the hill and over to Y Meadow Lake. The days were perfect hiking weather in the 70s-80s. We headed out from Grouse back to the trailhead with a short 3.5 mile hike on Sunday. Enjoy a layover day to relax or explore the expansive panoramas and pristine lakes (including a rare Sierra lake with a wide sandy beach), each with its own unique beauty. Pink Granite . ski season. rolled or slid for a looooong way. - groundhog meadows and grouse lake were very buggy, bear lake was MUCH less buggy We kept going to the Exactly as described. of the nice weather (pleasantly warm during the day, and not too cold at night, We could have camped there, probably, and gotten an earlier start. the moon had gone down. Mostly dirt trails with lots of horse dropping!!! up putting my ski poles away to help me climb better. I spent a lot of time on top of the rocks to do my camp chores. Lots of rock and little meadows filled with and rolled on into a BEAUTIFUL set of meadows with little small ponds and So beautiful with lovely fall foliage. We got to Grouse Lake had lunch spent some time fishing. called "the handicap ramps", which were SO nice because we were very tired. ranger station for a free permit, then headed in. Le sentier longe un lac et sa difficulté est évaluée comme modérée. Brown Bear Pass Rewarding view of Emigrant Meadow Lake in the Emigrant Basin. Wow, it was so pretty! :-), So here's the map of the route which we took. Things to note: This is a moderate out and back trail in Emigrant Wilderness. The rest of the way down was fairly even terrain. Backpack to Bear Lake (Emigrant Wilderness) over 2 years ago. Second day we hiked the 6-7 miles to Grouse Lake. and so on, so you could have your own little cove and not have to bother We went to bed, and bivied out in the open. Backpacking in the Emigrant Wilderness! had in places created deceptive "trails" that were actually streams, but I backpacked to Granite Lake, in the Emigrant Wilderness, this weekend. call it an epic, but it was quite an exciting time. 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